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Device Anonymity

2010-09-15 10:11:11 (6330 views)

Trying to make everyone happy as long as it doesn't delay launch or cost a fortune. Some have commented saying they would like the device not to have the company/product name on it but as you can guess it slightly interferes with marketing :)

So instead we're checking with the manufacturer how much it's going to cost to create very thin overlays, in cheap material (pvc not polycarbonate), with very weak adhesive (ideally like a post-it note), having the exact same design as the current one but without the company name. When you want to go stealth you apply this label on top of the overlay. Then you can theoretically remove it whenever you want to see the real overlay in all its glory. This way you don't need to damage or mod the immaculate and beautiful overlay in any way.

Of course if your kids find this, the labeling is your last problem if they start pushing the buttons :)

How many people would actually use this if it were available?

Comments

By dkcbx at 2010-09-15 10:55:59 Reply

Absolutely would us it.

By dkcbx at 2010-09-15 11:01:31 Reply

Also, is there an updated timeline on a release date? I know issues arise etc that make giving an exact date difficult. However, are you able to give us a rough idea as to when you expect to be in production based on what you have left to do? Based on what I have been following it looks like you are getting awful close.

Thanks

By dreamloverlabs at 2010-09-15 11:07:57 Reply

We're closer and closer... plastic and rubber are done, right now we're contacting our old friends at the PCB assembly house to verify they're still willing to help us with their machines.

We've got factors beyond our control such as regulatory paperwork for the DL2K-LINK and component availability that may impose some further delays but other than that it's just about making the PCBs and assembling them into the plastic/rubber (and finishing up all the software work)

By spedoman at 2010-09-15 20:03:08 Reply

I would absoulutely use it.

By johnsteed at 2010-09-15 10:59:49 Reply

Well, I've posted before that my preference is for an unobtrusive and innocuous remote. It's one of the things I like about the present PetSafe collar's remote: it's small and black and while it has a small gold-tone area, the PetSafe logo is simply embossed in the rubbery case of the remote. The only thing I don't like about it is the little antenna, which makes it obvious that this is not a common automobile remote.

So yes, I would probably permanently apply a cover if one were available (and I'd be annoyed when the glue finally gave out).

Trust me -- there is no marketing issue at all. People (friends) "in the scene" will definitely be told about the device and have it recommended to them. The lovely Domme who played with my PetSafe couldn't wait to tell her "in the know" vanilla friend how great it was. So I don't think you're losing any marketing at all. Perhaps, down the road, if competition arrives on the market, then brand awareness will become more important. But I'm not sure how likely competition is going to be, but then again, the Chinese seem to knock off everything.

If you don't obscure the logo, I'll be forced to use ugly black tape.

By dreamloverlabs at 2010-09-15 11:06:26 Reply

We need to brand the product... the covers would be real cheap (per unit after fixed costs if any) so if we end up making them we'll include 3 or 4 with the product.

By dreamloverlabs at 2010-09-15 12:52:28 Reply

Besides how many people, seeing an unusual remote control, will note down the name and google it?

By fgordon at 2010-09-16 13:20:21 Reply

I certainly would :)

By poster at 2010-09-16 01:07:48 Reply

you said "Of course if your kids find this, the labeling is your last problem if they start pushing the buttons :)" and that will be a problem if that should happen for some reason, will there be a emergency button the wearer can press to turn it off, and then my girl can see when I pressed it? that would be usefull in many situations. If she`s set the time to zap if I`m not home from work 30 min after I`m usually done, but if I get stuck in traffic or if I have to work longer ,and I`m not close to a PC would it be usefull if I could turn it off and that she could see when I did it, and then can she be the only one to turn it bac on.
Or can it work with bluetooth or something in my phone? If I could connect it to my phone and a app could I just call my girl and get a code or something in emergencys.

I thin it will limit our use a little bit if there is no way I can turn it off in case of a emergency, I have a feeling that it works badly with driving and beeing zapped, and if my kid get it and start to zap will it be devastating, he don`t know about our roles and should not either.

But beside my few conserns do I really look forward to you are done, I think you are doing a great job and the product seem to be amazing :)

By dreamloverlabs at 2010-09-17 06:51:49 Reply

There would have been a button had the receiver not been 100% waterproof :)

In case of an emergency you will be able to pull your scrotum back to disconnect it from the bottom electrode.

By fgordon at 2010-09-16 02:22:40 Reply

We would use it too.

By mrfresh at 2010-09-16 04:48:29 Reply

Hmmm ... not sure if the anonymity is all that important. The remote is either being used somewhere private - in which case not an issue; or somewhere public, in which case it's going to draw attention whatever the branding is.

Especially if it's being pointed at someone at the time...

Hopefully the rest of the time it will be kept somewhere safe and discreet ... not left lying around for curious kids / visitors to begin pushing buttons!

By dreamloverlabs at 2010-09-17 06:53:05 Reply

Exactly. It's not everyday that you see a flat wide transparent remote control with purple LEDs :)

Anyway if the male is within a 30-50 meter range (depending on orientation) in open air you won't even need to point it in his direction. You can push the button from inside your pocket.

By Henry at 2010-09-16 10:50:48 Reply

Yes, we'll hide the name/logo too.

By lizliz at 2010-09-16 17:10:12 Reply

If you're unable to find a suitable printer, one possibility would be to print them in your own shop. You can easily pick up an inkjet photo printer for $100 to $150.

Then material could be something like PhotoTex. This is basically printable sticky fabric. One vendor http://www.atlex.com/phototex/removable-adhesive-fabric-inkjet-paper.htm sells 8.5x11 sheets in as small a quantity as 10 sheets.

You could probably fit 15 to 20 covers per sheet.

Then all you'd need to do is cut it to match the remote.

Since it's fine grain fabric you can't really get fine resolution printing. However, because it's fabric, it does have the advantage that it will fit on uneven/rough surfaces without bubbling or creases.

By dyonisos at 2010-09-17 01:31:10 Reply

I don't undertand the concern of anonymity in these posts. What do you talk about ? About a remote control for a punishment device mounted on a real chastity belt worn by the submissived man. If you accept to wear outside such a product, like I do, I don't care about the look of the remote. I think the risk of the stange form under trousers to be looked at by other is much greater. So if you accept to wear such device, il wouldn't be so much more difficult to accept to have a branded remote device in the hands of your Mistress.

By dreamloverlabs at 2010-09-17 06:53:42 Reply

Nothing is visible from under clothing. The receiver is far smaller than any chastity device it gets connected to.

By dyonisos at 2010-09-17 12:39:10 Reply

I know that about DL2000 reciever, I was talking about the cage itself.

By anodeuk at 2010-09-17 06:02:27 Reply

By offering to provide stick-on covers or a rubber sleeve (which also provides a different, sexy visual appeal), you’ve catered for those females who wish to be discreet. Others will simply be careful about who gets to see this particular remote. Yet another group will see it as a potential risqué talking point.

As far as sales go, every product has pros and cons and few potential users will forego the benefits of this device just because of the logo, which they can conceal. The balance of advantage rests with branding it as you have.

By akw123 at 2010-09-17 08:06:43 Reply

I'm not sure what advantage hiding the name brings to a Company manufacturing and marketing a product? It seems counter productive. Why invest the time and money only to have the name covered? Are you going to loose the sale if you don't offer the sticky? What about copy infringement? If the name isn't visibly who really owns the product? I think discretion on the part of the user would be the answer.
I understand you guys are waiting for the lab certification in order to proceed but I wouldn't waste money on these trivial requests. Instead I would be conserving my limited funds in order to proceed with the manufacturing when the time is right. I don't want to see another six months go by.....

By dreamloverlabs at 2010-09-17 09:10:53 Reply

We're only considering this possibility because we already have a cutting tool created for the overlay... so in theory making another very thin overlay with a cheap material shouldn't cost much at all. But we don't have a price yet, when we get it we'll decide if it's worth including...

We are definitely not delaying the project for any reason at all at this point.

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